Notices

Live at Five with Yakkity Yaks Anything and everything news/weather related should go here




Reply
 
Bookmark and Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-15-2013, 08:14 AM   #21
Sphinx
YakBB2 WINNER & #EvilQueen!
 
Sphinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 11,468
Thanks: 1,211
Thanked 4,330 Times in 2,904 Posts
Groans: 406
Groaned at 139 Times in 132 Posts
Default

One of my Senators, Rob Portman, just came out in support of gay marriage. He is a staunch Republican. Here is his 'coming out' article:

Quote:
I have come to believe that if two people are prepared to make a lifetime commitment to love and care for each other in good times and in bad, the government shouldnít deny them the opportunity to get married.

That isnít how Iíve always felt. As a congressman, and more recently as a senator, I opposed marriage for same-sex couples. Then something happened that led me to think through my position in a much deeper way.

Two years ago, my son Will, then a college freshman, told my wife, Jane, and me that he is gay. He said heíd known for some time, and that his sexual orientation wasnít something he chose; it was simply a part of who he is. Jane and I were proud of him for his honesty and courage. We were surprised to learn he is gay but knew he was still the same person heíd always been. The only difference was that now we had a more complete picture of the son we love.

At the time, my position on marriage for same-sex couples was rooted in my faith tradition that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Knowing that my son is gay prompted me to consider the issue from another perspective: that of a dad who wants all three of his kids to lead happy, meaningful lives with the people they love, a blessing Jane and I have shared for 26 years.

I wrestled with how to reconcile my Christian faith with my desire for Will to have the same opportunities to pursue happiness and fulfillment as his brother and sister. Ultimately, it came down to the Bibleís overarching themes of love and compassion and my belief that we are all children of God.

Well-intentioned people can disagree on the question of marriage for gay couples, and maintaining religious freedom is as important as pursuing civil marriage rights. For example, I believe that no law should force religious institutions to perform weddings or recognize marriages they donít approve of.

British Prime Minister David Cameron has said he supports allowing gay couples to marry because he is a conservative, not in spite of it. I feel the same way. We conservatives believe in personal liberty and minimal government interference in peopleís lives. We also consider the family unit to be the fundamental building block of society. We should encourage people to make long-term commitments to each other and build families, so as to foster strong, stable communities and promote personal responsibility.

One way to look at it is that gay couplesí desire to marry doesn't amount to a threat but rather a tribute to marriage, and a potential source of renewed strength for the institution.

Over the past decade, nine states and the District of Columbia have recognized marriage for same-sex couples. It is understandable to feel cautious about making a major change to such an important social institution, but the experience of the past decade shows us that marriage for same-sex couples has not undercut traditional marriage. In fact, over the past 10 years, the national divorce rate has declined.

Ronald Reagan said all great change in America begins at the dinner table, and thatís been the case in my family. Around the country, family members, friends, neighbors and coworkers have discussed and debated this issue, with the result that today twice as many people support marriage for same-sex couples as when the Defense of Marriage Act was signed into law 17 years ago by President Bill Clinton, who now opposes it. With the overwhelming majority of young people in support of allowing gay couples to marry, in some respects the issue has become more generational than partisan.

The process of citizens persuading fellow citizens is how consensus is built and enduring change is forged. Thatís why I believe change should come about through the democratic process in the states. Judicial intervention from Washington would circumvent that process as itís moving in the direction of recognizing marriage for same-sex couples. An expansive court ruling would run the risk of deepening divisions rather than resolving them.

Iíve thought a great deal about this issue, and like millions of Americans in recent years, Iíve changed my mind on the question of marriage for same-sex couples. As we strive as a nation to form a more perfect union, I believe all of our sons and daughters ought to have the same opportunity to experience the joy and stability of marriage.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...t-married.html

I told some of his critics to stop being ignorant in the pews.
__________________
YBB2 Winner. Long Live the Evil Fiefdom!
Que Sera, Sera
Sphinx is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 03-17-2013, 07:16 AM   #22
Isaac
Senior Yakster
 
Isaac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 287
Thanks: 12
Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Haven't read every comment in this thread, so please don't make fun of me for asking: What does SCOTUS stand for? It's probably very obvious, which is probably why I don't know!
Isaac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2013, 08:27 AM   #23
Sheldon
YakTV Executive Producer
 
Sheldon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Oakley, CA
Posts: 6,613
Thanks: 3,408
Thanked 4,541 Times in 2,464 Posts
Groans: 134
Groaned at 139 Times in 124 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac View Post
Haven't read every comment in this thread, so please don't make fun of me for asking: What does SCOTUS stand for? It's probably very obvious, which is probably why I don't know!
No worries, Isaac!

It stand for Supreme Court of the United States. Just easier than typing that out every time. Much like POTUS (President of the United States).
Sheldon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 09:06 AM   #24
Sphinx
YakBB2 WINNER & #EvilQueen!
 
Sphinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 11,468
Thanks: 1,211
Thanked 4,330 Times in 2,904 Posts
Groans: 406
Groaned at 139 Times in 132 Posts
Default

Sorry, I'm a political science/international relations major, so I tend to abbreviate unless I'm trying to make my page length.

SCOTUS takes up Prop 8 tomorrow and DOMA Wednesday.

I will be watching Scalia's words with wrathful intent. Might have to make a special trip to DC in June depending on what happens.
__________________
YBB2 Winner. Long Live the Evil Fiefdom!
Que Sera, Sera
Sphinx is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 03-25-2013, 09:14 AM   #25
Sheldon
YakTV Executive Producer
 
Sheldon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Oakley, CA
Posts: 6,613
Thanks: 3,408
Thanked 4,541 Times in 2,464 Posts
Groans: 134
Groaned at 139 Times in 124 Posts
Default

It makes my stomach hurt to know they hold a lot of determining factors about our future in their hands...
Sheldon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:16 AM   #26
Sphinx
YakBB2 WINNER & #EvilQueen!
 
Sphinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 11,468
Thanks: 1,211
Thanked 4,330 Times in 2,904 Posts
Groans: 406
Groaned at 139 Times in 132 Posts
Default

I know right? I'm making a Yak blog post about it right now.
__________________
YBB2 Winner. Long Live the Evil Fiefdom!
Que Sera, Sera
Sphinx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:20 AM   #27
Sheldon
YakTV Executive Producer
 
Sheldon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Oakley, CA
Posts: 6,613
Thanks: 3,408
Thanked 4,541 Times in 2,464 Posts
Groans: 134
Groaned at 139 Times in 124 Posts
Default

Can't wait to read your thoughts. I KNOW you won't hold back!
Sheldon is offline   Reply With Quote

Old 03-25-2013, 12:30 PM   #28
Sphinx
YakBB2 WINNER & #EvilQueen!
 
Sphinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 11,468
Thanks: 1,211
Thanked 4,330 Times in 2,904 Posts
Groans: 406
Groaned at 139 Times in 132 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarrod View Post
Can't wait to read your thoughts. I KNOW you won't hold back!
Too true.
__________________
YBB2 Winner. Long Live the Evil Fiefdom!
Que Sera, Sera
Sphinx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 03:17 PM   #29
19wingz
Carrie's Cowboy Casanova
 
19wingz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 56,482
Thanks: 6,672
Thanked 8,642 Times in 6,617 Posts
Groans: 627
Groaned at 1,038 Times in 953 Posts
Default

Great post, I just read it on the blog!
__________________
"Well titted, stand by for my upcoming tat." ~ Sheldon

Proud Supporter of the Michigan Wolverines & Detroit Red Wings!! (and anyone who plays those damn Buckeyes)

God put us here on this carnival ride
We close our eyes
Never knowing where it will take us next
19wingz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 03:20 PM   #30
Isaac
Senior Yakster
 
Isaac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 287
Thanks: 12
Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I know about prop 8, but what's DOMA? Is it something like the defense of marriage act? Again, apologies for my naivete.
Isaac is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


no new posts